Affiliate Marketing Blog by Clarke Duncan (aka Supercod) from the UK.

BBC Removes Video and Apology is added to Article

Last week the BBC published an article about spam and a video accompanying it unfairly shows one of my websites Free UK Stuff, while talking about spam. I am pleased to say that after publishing this blog post and having received a number of blog posts (see list at the bottom of this message), forum posts and folk filing complaints on reading the article, the BBC made contact on the Friday of last week after receiving these complaints and reading this blog and others and removed the video later that day.

Today the BBC made contact to say they have agreed to publish a statement that I requested to be put at the bottom of the news article in question, so I could show suppliers, merchants and site users should they have any questions or doubts about what the video contained.

Ian a Journalist from the BBC who handled the investigation, removal and getting the statement published about this article is the type of person I kind of expect all BBC employees to be. He was very professional, didn’t take sides and while he had to report to his bosses before action was taken, he clearly done so quickly and called me back when he said he would, so I thank him for understanding the matter at hand and dealing with it swiftly.

Hopefully next time when a technology article is published an editor or journalist will be involved who understands the issues raised in the article and any accompanying video before they get published. Indeed it was pointed out in the past that some really good articles have been published on the BBC News about the very important subject of spam and how it gets in the way of legitimate communications between site owners and their members. The person who invents the total solution to spam will be a very rich person indeed.

Here is a list of blog articles posted in support, if I have missed anyone out please get in contact and I will edit this post.

BBC Spam Email Experiment Badly Researched

The BBC hasn’t a clue

The BBC Make Spam Out Of Fish!

BBC Investigation Into Spam, Poorly Researched?

“Clarke Duncan sold my daughter viagra”: BBC Reports

Lies, Damn Lies and the BBC (my personal blog)

Statement on BBC News Video featuring Free UK Stuff

And the A4U Forum where lots of messages of support where also posted in the thread BBC spam article featuring aff sites.

Thanks again for the support, shows what can be done when Affiliates stand up for each other, happy days :-)

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BBC News experiment overloads brain cells of editors

I found out last night that BBC News ran a story and video about spam that clearly shows my website Free UK Stuff and domain name and screen shots from the website and double opt-in email sign up system.

What is unbelievable in this “experiment” conducted by McAfee is that they have totally no clue about what is email communications for registered site users and what is spam, the stuff you get that you never agreed to. If you watch the video you will be left thinking Free UK Stuff sells on your email address and you will get thousands of spam messages because of it, its totally shocking just how poor the editorial process has been in allowing these slanderous lies to make it on to the web as if it was news worthy facts.

I have run Free UK Stuff since 1997 and have over 1/4 of a million users. Since 2000 we operated a very strict double opt-in system that records the person that joined, at what time, from where, what browser they used and so on to prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone has asked and then click on a link to complete the sign up process to join the Free UK Stuff Members Newsletter, a weekly email that tells members what is going on at the site and often features 2 or 3 site sponsors or adverts. This is all clearly stated to the members before they join and they can opt-out automatically at anytime.

So I have done some research on the person that joined our site and who agreed to receive our newsletter, and here is what I found.

Log Evidence

She first arrived on the site having searched Google for “free stuff”.


82.10.200.6 - - [09/Apr/2008:09:42:08 +0100] “GET / HTTP/1.1″ 200 6014 “http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=free+stuff&meta=” “Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)”

She then started the process to join the site 1m 47s later.


82.10.200.6 - - [09/Apr/2008:09:43:55 +0100] “POST /cgi-bin/join.pl HTTP/1.1″ 200 10675 “http://www.freeukstuff.com/join.html” “Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)”

3 days later she finally clicks the link to join the site as a member, the only email she had from us was at 9.43am asking her if she wanted to be a member, 3 days later she decided that yes she did and completed the double opt-in process. An email was then sent welcoming her as a member.


82.10.200.6 - - [12/Apr/2008:12:35:12 +0100] “GET /gsgxCihwbdgxrvrdvAyx/h HTTP/1.1″ 200 20325 “http://webmail.mcafeespamexperiment.com/horde/imp/message.php?index=8″ “Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)”

3 hours later, when she was filmed for the video showing on the BBC Website she clicked the link again, and this is what they filmed.


82.10.200.6 - - [12/Apr/2008:15:41:11 +0100] “GET /gsgxCihwbdgxrvrdvAyx/h HTTP/1.1″ 200 20327 “http://webmail.mcafeespamexperiment.com/horde/imp/message.php?index=8″ “Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)”

Time Line of BBC News Video

Here is the time line of the BBC News video destroying our hard earned reputation as being the UK’s number one Free Stuff website.

0.07s - Site name is clearly visible on screen, it’s the only one highlighted with a blue bar.

0.43s to 0.48s - Site web address is clearly shown on screen, they roll over and highlight it.

0.48s to 0.51s - They click on the email from Free UK Stuff will talking about the “spam” that arrived.

0.52s - you can clearly see the link you must click on order to join our double opt-in email newsletter, If you compare that part of the video with our log evidence you can clearly see this is the same persons email.

01.01s - she claims that by clicking on our link, the one she just clicked on again that it generated “more spam” now it’s funny how she could know this as if you look at the log evidence above you will see she was only a member of the site 3 hours before they filmed her clicking the link again. Clicking the link again won’t make you a member twice, as you have already joined, so you get sent to the welcome screen.

01.06s - she says it’s not just her, and that her 14 year old daughter is receiving daily emails, then we see footage of her going on about spam that has nothing to do with us what so ever but if you watched this “news” piece you think we are the worlds worst spammers and not a shred of evidence to say we have ever spammed anyone yet we feature so highly in this report.

What makes this all even more unreal is that we are regularly asked by different BBC departments to list “freebies” such as games, show tickets and so on our site http://www.freeukstuff.com/atoz/b.html I wonder if this lady signed up to the BBC mailing lists that they would consider their own mailing lists spam also, because that’s what this news article is saying in this day and age it is preferable to send an email instead of chopping down trees to send a letter, that irresponsible and reckless reporting destroys the reputation of hard working people like myself can pass as a worthy news story. Not once did the BBC contact us in the making of this news article.

  • View the BBC News Article here, view the video and compare the times above.

  • Visit Free UK Stuff.

  • Make a complaint about this shockingly poor news story to the BBC and help educate them on what is spam, note if enough people complain and more than enough Affiliate voices around, they have to publish a response to this. It’s very easy to do, just email, write or call the complaint line.

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Sunshine on a Rainy Day!

Nope this blog post is not a sad excuse to use a title based on a song, I will leave that to the king of song titles changes, Jason. Also I am not even trying to win one of the many holidays and prizes up for grabs via Sunshine.co.uk nice that they are and all.

This post is simply to tell everyone about excellence in the Affiliate Area when I see it, I know many of my posts are not what you would call “very positive” and “up beat” as I am trying to right some wrongs but I also need to spend time telling people what works, what is good and what we can learn from and the dudes at Sunshine are people we could learn from.

I was reading one of their blogs today, Mission #6 and as I had not actually checked out Mission #1 to #5 I thought I had best get over and take a look. If you don’t know, basically they are setting different Missions that Affiliates can take part in and you have a chance to win prizes, and they made it open to everyone, heck you don’t even need to have done a single thing in travel and you can still find a mission to take part in, indeed Mission #6 is to get you started, to make your first travel site. It’s a very well thought out campaign and indeed the fact it’s not been just a one off has paid off, because here I am at Mission #6 writing about it, if they had not had this many so far I may never have checked it out.

However all that a side what I want to point out is something I never seen on an Affiliate Resource page on a Merchants site before, a live chat that is actually got the owners of the company standing by, now I doubt that can last for ever as these guys grow but just to test it wasn’t some on page eye candy but in fact really manned by the named people I clicked the link, waited less than 20 seconds and was in direct contact with one of the site owners to ask my questions, how good is that! Truly excellent from an Affiliates point of view, instant questions and answers, granted they are still at the starting stages so it may not last forever however it certainly would encourage me to get involved with these guys at the early stages as they are clearly chucking everything at this project to make it a success from an Affiliate Marketing point of view, so well done guys!

To-do: 1 upbeat positive post a year. I can now tick this off my list LOL ;)

Note: Actually that was a lot less painful to do than I was expecting (hate American style cringe worthy your great posts), so I think I will do more in future on any Merchants, Agency, Affiliate (if they are ok with me pointing it out) or Network that is doing something note worthy from now on will find they get an article written about them, but please don’t ask me to do one, I need to find out and think it’s well done on my own time via the methods of being an Affiliate I use and they will be a limited number of posts, every so often, as I am no kiss ase love everyone type LOL ;)

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BETAing around the Bush!

Why do so many Affiliate Companies have websites in Beta? It used to be the case that “beta” was the final stage before realising your software yet some of the betas are going on 2 years now, so what’s so badly wrong with the sites or software that they have to keep them in “beta” for such long periods. Now I have my guesses and the two working theories is that it’s either because of the giant mess DGM made of the now infamous “DMG Pro” so everyone is worried they might make such a mess of things and tag on “beta” so they can say well it had a few bugs. The other working theory is that it’s monkey see, monkey do for example Google’s Gmail has been in beta since 2004, yes that’s right 4 years in “beta testing” and that makes the couple of years some Affiliates Companies have been in beta seem like nothing. As far as I can tell Gmail is working as you would expect, maybe I am missing something.

However what worries me is, are these sites and systems so fundamentally flawed that they can’t move from the beta stage or is their some hidden meaning, for example is this a protection method so if their systems do mess up then they are legally protected i.e. say they don’t pay you out the commission your expecting is it just simply a case of saying, “but we told you this is a beta program, your using it at your own risk”.

Recently I was quite pleased to see Affiliate Future buck this trend of “beta” releases, by doing something that Paid On Results done also. Have beta testers test behind the scene before releasing the new version but still offer access to the old one when it’s live. The new version is fully working and not a beta version, sure a few bugs might appear as is expected with every system however they clearly believe in their product not to tag it as beta but respect the fact with such a huge upgrade some people will like to use the old version for a time until they get used to the new features. I like the new version and not just the looks it’s actually better by a mile than the last.

So come on guys, won’t point any fingers but get your stuff out of beta, show you actually believe in your product and are giving it your full backing. Beta doesn’t mean you can “delay offering full support and/or responsibility for remaining issues” get them sorted and give us “your customers/suppliers” the reassurance that we are not using some half-baked system that could collapse at any time.

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The great Discount Coupon Voucher debate!

It’s been going on for months mostly because a couple of bad eggs have been cookie stuffing and so robbing real content Affiliates of the hard earned money the deserve but more recently (today) a Discount Codes Podcast discussing the subject was released over at the top Affiliate Blog (puts this one to shame) by Fraser Edwards.

He interviews some affiliates (good eggs) that use codes to help hook-in customers to buying from a merchant, indeed I myself have been doing that very same thing since 1997 on my website Free UK Stuff. Discount codes, money off, vouchers and coupons have always played a big part in that site and as early as 1999 I decided to make spin off sites from Free UK Stuff. I had loads of choices and at the time was doing rather well from Competitions so I launched UK Competitions and I was doing ok from Coupons / Vouchers but also special offers and deals that didn’t fit the scope of just a “codes” site so I went with launching an Offers based site a few years later called Free UK Offers.

The question I am asking myself was, back in 1999 when I was picking UKCompetitions.com or UKCoupons.com what should I have done? Well I think I done the right thing for the time however as Jason from Loquax can tell you Competitions are a pain in the backside to keep up dated and I have a fraction of competitions that he has on his. I even made a half hearted attempt to lunch the coupons site in 2004 and again in 2006 but as I was very busy with other companies/projects and the stuff we where doing at the time was needing more and more work so it just never happened.

Now I am asking myself, should I even get involved in the whole coupons / voucher thing? I am certainly always looking for ways to capitalise on my bank of very good domain names, great website ideas or ways to do something better that is already being done but are coupon site heading for a crash and burn or has just the hyper activity and bad practices of a couple people in the early stages and will the Networks (all of them not just the normal few) stand up and root out the bad eggs? This could easily be another cash back phenomenon and how will this effect traditional content based Affiliates who I consider myself to be and have in 2007 launched some 8 content based sites. Are these basically now going to be the feeding ground to get customers interested in a product only for commission to be lost as they head off to go via the cash back sites, or get a discount from a voucher site?

I guess time will tell but I certainly be watching with interest and I might just pitch in my ukcoupons.com site in to the mix, after all the last design is sitting complete in our website design area just needs some programming bits and bobs and a member of staff to run it, only problem I have is I like to enter fair level playing fields and won’t stand to be up against someone who is cookie stuffing as basically when you do that your cheating the Merchants, fellow Affiliates and the industry as a whole.

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New Theme to Replace the Broken One!

My Affiliate Marketing Blog has a new look :-) . After breaking it last week during a security patch update David my designer at UK Internet Sites has come up with a new look. Not sure about the chair on the top-right hand side but it was my fault for saying, “just do a blog design like the ones we have for the other sites, change the colours and give me a logo” but hey main thing is I am now away from the default wordpress design that is often the hallmark of a blog that’s just went live.

Now to get on with the harder task of writing decent articles that people actually want to read!

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My Wordpress Theme is Broken

Hi all, I was updating my blog today to the latest security patch 2.3.2 and after upgrade for some reason my custom theme would no longer work (update worked on my other blogs with no problem). As the guy who designed it is no longer around I will have to make do with the standard basic one for a few weeks while I arrange for a new one to be made.

Oh well, guess it was time for a fresh lick of paint as the last one was looking a bit old and boring. Hopefully see you soon with my new look blog :-)

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Tumble Weed Rolling By

Well I was never one for posting loads, indeed my average is something like 2 posts a month however since the A4u Expo I been so busy with so much stuff that simply have not found (or is that wanted to find) the time to update my blog. I am sure it’s not been a huge loss however now that things have started to calm down and managed to off-load some of my many tasks (either by automation or delegation) I can once again grace you screen with my point of view on all things Affiliate Marketing here in the UK.

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I am an A4uAward Finalist

I just found out that I am an A4uAward finalist in the category “Industry Champion Award 2007″, so thanks to everyone that voted for me it’s been totally un-expected and can’t help feeling a little chuffed that people have taken the time to vote for me.

Full list of finalists in the Industry Champion Award 2007 section are:

  • Clarke Duncan
  • Fraser Edwards
  • Jess Luthi
  • Keith Budden
  • Matthew Wood
  • Nick Roveta

Well done to everyone of them, very well deserved recognition for the extra effort you have all put in to the Industry and helping shape it’s future. Find out more at the A4uAwards Blog.

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Affiliate Code of Conduct by Fraser

Fraser posted an interesting article about a subject that has been long talked about but nothing has ever been done about either because what is currently in place is ok by most people, or no interest in the subject from the people that are effected most or simply lack of understanding why a reasonable, simple to follow code of practice could be a good way to keep check that your not falling foul of any rules. At any rate I have always believed that you should act responsibly and the people you work with or promote should also act responsibly in return but sadly that dosn’t always happen.

So instead of commenting on Fasers site directly as I have a fair bit to say I decided to write what I think about the points he covers here in my own blog, you can view the original article here.

My Affiliate Code of Conduct
As an affiliate I will use a number of different methods to generate sales for the merchants that I choose to work with. At all times I will endeavour not to act in a way that reflects badly on the merchant.

Fair enough, I think that is what anyone would responsibly expect but good to have it in writing.

Contact Information
I will ensure that I provide an up to date email address and phone number to all networks and believe that this should be available to the merchants I work with. However this information must be confidential and not shared beyond the parties involved.

I personally don’t want merchants to have my email address or phone number to harass me any more than they currently do, most don’t give me a way to contact them. I will however be happy to provided these details to people I am working well with and are not about to abuse it by phoning me every couple of days. So for me I prefer that I give valid and correct details to the Network but that Merchants use the channels provided by the Network to communicate with me and I would like options with Networks to say what I don’t think is ok, as I have seen many a Merchant harvest my details from other Networks and send me piles of spam as I didn’t request information about them. One for the Merchants Code, give us an easy way to contact you should we wish and actually reply to my emails even if it’s a no.

Creative
If requested to change creative I will do so within 7 days.

This should only apply if you take the creative off the Networks system and copy it on to your own site i.e. your are not using the Networks system to server the creative. Otherwise sorry but I don’t want to change out of date creative for Merchants if the Network is still providing it they should update it themselves, many of the good Networks do, only the poor ones have to email you and call you to change a banner they provide.

Paid Search
I will comply with all reasonable restrictions as long as they are clearly communicated in a single point of reference that I can find when I log in to the network and cover all areas. I expect to be notified of any change to these terms. I do not believe that I should be forced to add negative keywords to my campaigns.

If I am found to be accidentally in breach of any restrictions I will modify my campaign within 7 days of being notified. If the issue is time sensitive then a telephone call is the best way to get my attention.

I think this one is fair enough however there is times when negative keywords will be asked and asked reasonably such as for an example a dating site may request that you add the term “teen”, teenager” etc to your negative keywords in your campaign as they do not want teens on a predominantly adult based services for a number of very good reasons and sometimes certain companies don’t want to be associated with certain keywords that unfortunately are typed in at the same time as their main keyword. If done on that basis then fair play but they need to be concise and sensible and not a spreadsheet with 10 thousand generic words and misspellings and yes I have seen that happen. Also Merchants that want to protect brand names on Google for example should be writing and complaining to Google after they got the registered trademark, as doing anything else is wasting everyone’s time and is a real turn off for people working with you.

SEO
I reserve the right to use whatever content or text I feel appropriate in the title, body text and META tags of my pages. If you as a merchant expect to restrict me in this way from using any of your terms then it’s probably best that we don’t work together.

Fully agree, however merchants will reserve the right to terminate the relationship if your saying something negative about them as they are not going to want to pay for that kind of promotion. However Networks should have no right to tell you to remove stuff on your own site just because the Merchant your talking about is on their books (as long as your not linking to the Merchant your slating via an Affiliate link that is).

Forced Clicks
I will not use frames, iframes, cookie stuffing or any other method of forced click to set cookies that the user may not be aware of. Visitors will only use my affiliate links when they actually click a link.

Frames are not the problem, it’s how they are used as highlighted in Jasons blog post recently.

Software
I will not use any form of desktop based software application to deliver advertising to my users.

Perfectly respectable and legal uses of software. I think you should add using software to set cookies or force clicks as a software program such as say a Kids Web Browser has a legitimate right to have banner adverts or text links if they want. I have changed my view point on what is deemed a respectable use of software from what I thought a few years ago after having a chance to see different things in use, for example there is sites setting cookies because their users said that is ok but do they really know what they have agreed to, half the time they don’t.

Content
None of my sites will have any adult or illegal content and there will be no offensive language.

Think you should just stick to no illegal content and porn sites and let the merchant decided if the affiliate is right for them or not. Lads Mag sites for example will have adult content (without being hardcore porn) and plenty of offensive language but will sell a ton of gadgets, joke products and underwear. Everyone has different standards and beliefs and so do Merchants, some will find shopping sites that promote bingo offence for example.

Domains
I will not register merchant names, misspells or confusingly similar names without permission from the merchant.

Far enough but only if not generic words and they have to register some kind of trademark also if they are serious about enforcing it as for example I have great names that I bought in the 90’s that merchants have since bought poor versions that are like mine but are generic and your rule could stop me using mine when I had it first. If they have the trademark then misspellings with regards to domain names should also be included but do have to ask yourself why so many Merchants never buy the other versions or misspellings.

Discount Codes
I will not use codes which are provided through other channels or offline promotions.

Merchants really need to offer all channels codes to use but if they don’t want to for whatever reason then Affiliates need to respect (as long as they been told in program restrictions) they can’t nick them from magazines, however Merchants need to know people are not daft and will click on Affiliate links and still use offers if they find elsewhere, so build that in to your costing for the promotion. As Affiliate can’t be punished for someone using a code just because you as the Merchant didn’t want it to happen like that.

Confidentiality
I will keep commercially sensitive information about my merchants confidential and I expect the same from them. Information about my traffic levels, methods etc should not be shared with other affiliates.

2nd part of this is really for Merchants Code and not Affiliates code, however I do agree if your given a nod and a wink about an up coming promotion that Merchants want you in place to work on but don’t want everyone finding out about then you really should keep tight lipped until it’s live.

I do think you need something in the code that asks Affiliates to contact Networks about issues instead of being lazy and just posting issues or problems on forums or blogs, got to say from Networks point of view it’s something I find very poor that Affiliates would rather stick the boot in first without giving people a chance to resolve it for them, of course if the Network/Merchant doesn’t do anything after giving a reasonable time, then by all means get stuck in and give the Network what for, just be sure you checked your emails for replies before you do as I seen a few times where people didn’t notice the reply and got all upset as if they had been ignored.

Given more time I could probably think of a couple of good add-ons but lets not run away and try and cover everything as it’s not going to work as no one will remember every single thing they should and should not be doing and more so if different sources all have different rules, like just now every Network treats many issues differently.

So in summary, a simple set of basics rules is needed for everyone to aim for, but if in doubt try to be reasonable about it, don’t be a nit picker and if you have any problems drop the Merchant/Affiliate/Network and go work with someone else who won’t give you grief, you have loads and loads of choice these days, talk is always cheap if you won’t back your belifs up with some kind of action. Sorry I have not added much more to this as the orgional was pretty much fine accept for the things I have pointed out, but to be clear some things said in the code are for more than just Affiliates so needs everyone to be onboard with it or it will not work.

Looking forward to the Merchant, Network and Agency Codes of Practice from Fraser, sure I will have loads to say on them. And always remember if you don’t like something ultimately don’t work with them after you explored the possibility of a policy being changed if you don’t agree with it.

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